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Alex's avatar

Hi, nice article. It raised an interesting question that I don't... how students are equipped to judge quality? I suppose one can make rubrics, but my sense as an outsider (I teach math) is that there is some sort of expertise required to judge quality. I recall as a student I would do my best in essays in English class but would end up dissapointingly with a B, but despite reading the feedback I would have no idea how to get an A or what made it a B. Probably if I saw a classmates work who got an A, I would realize how much better their's was.

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Thanks for this great article. I appreciate the mix of practical advice (e.g., midterm grade reporting deadlines) and more direct feedback about the student experience.

It's interesting to me the way that most of your students focused on the external markers of their work in the class instead of looking more deeply at the quality of their work. I agree with other comments that suspect that this is tied to the way that students are trained to think about their grades as a game of sorts.

I wonder what it would look like to get them to be more introspective and whether reframing the conversation from "what grade would you give yourself" to a question that gets more to the root of what you are looking for. How did you frame the purpose of the mid-semester conferences? I'm sure for many students this is likely a totally new experience and they practiced on how to think about assessing the quality of their work.

Thanks again for sharing your experience, super helpful for me as I consider prototyping some alternative grading in one of my courses this fall.

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