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Kimberly Hall's avatar

I think students absorb far more than we give them credit for because there is just so much that we can't see. I often think that as teachers we are just planting seeds, and some of those seeds grow quick and some take a while to shoot up.

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I really appreciate the care and seriousness you bring to this work, especially the way you listen to students and treat grading conversations as moments for reflection rather than judgment. There’s a lot here that clearly moves beyond the worst transactional habits of schooling.

One distinction I keep returning to in my own thinking is the difference between responding well to instruction and learning itself. When students say the grading system supported their learning, I find myself wondering how tightly that learning is still tethered to what the course defined in advance as “the learning.” In other words, if a student developed deep understanding or insight related to the domain but outside the syllabus or prescribed assignments, would that learning have had a place to be recognized within the grading conversation?

That’s not a criticism so much as a structural question. Even thoughtful, humane grading systems often remain anchored to teacher-defined outcomes, simply because the institution requires grades as tokens of value. You acknowledge that tension yourself in the final section, and I hear real sincerity in your desire for students to move beyond a purely transactional view of school.

What my work with FILL (Facilitated Interdependent Language Learning) has surfaced for me is that there are ways—slow, imperfect, and often constrained by the system—to open the door a bit further. Ways to let learners propose evidence of learning rather than only respond to predefined evidence requests. Ways to shift grading conversations from “How well did I meet the course expectations?” to “What did I actually learn, and how can I show it?”

I don’t think this is about doing more, or even doing things “better.” It’s about noticing where the structure itself quietly limits what can count as learning, even in classrooms that are deeply student-centered. Your reflection already points in that direction. I see this as part of the same ongoing inquiry rather than a departure from it.

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